Goal: Analyze the relationship between the relationship between a literary text and its historical, social and/or political context
What are some similarities between our society and the society in The Giver?
The Giver pictures a community in which every person and his or her experience is precisely the same. The climate is controlled, and competition is eliminated in favor of a community in which everyone works for the common good. What advantages might "sameness" have for a community? Is this loss of diversity worthwhile? Explain.
Please click on the comments link, respond to this prompt, read the other students' comments and reply to one other classmates' comments. Each posting and classmate response should be at least 10 sentences. In your responses to your classmates, consider whether you agree or disagree to this posting and explain why.
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I think that they have the same kind of love in a family like we do. They aren’t actually related to each other, but they all act like a real family. Another similarity they have in common with us is that they have the same feelings and emotions like us. Not every family shares there thoughts and feelings with there family but some families do! They have the same feelings as everybody in the world! They might not share those feelings, but they do have to tell somebody how they are feeling at least once! In our world people do the same thing. They don’t share it to everybody, but they do once in a while! Jonas’s community isn’t the most perfect community, but they do share the same feelings and have families like us too! I hope you agree with me
ReplyDeleteSome similarities our society and the society in the Giver have are some of the following. First of all, all people range in age and personality within both societies. Also, each person in the societies has differences in appearance, and there are both males and females. In both societies, people eat and sleep on a regular basis, and there are families in both societies. The environment in both societies is the same as well. Also in the book, The Giver, everyone lives in the same way, so here are some advantages to living in the same way as everyone else. No one would be judged, and everyone would be happy and kind to each other. Even though similarity can be good, people need diversity for a couple of reasons. First, there is nothing that sets you apart from everyone else or makes you unique. Also, you are not free to be yourself because you must be the same as everybody else. Those are some of my thoughts about both of the societies.
ReplyDeleteThere is many different similarities between the society we have today and the society in the giver. One example of this is there is many different problems that occur in our society today, along with that there is lots of problems that happened in the giver. One example of this is in today’s society there is lots of financial problems and many other problems like that. In the giver one of the examples of a problem is Lilly was all angry because this new kid cut her in line. Another similarity is in our society a lot of parents have jobs, which they don’t know were to put their children so they put them in a child daycare, which is what happened in the giver where Lilly had to stay in one of those places. Another similarity is in today’s society kids go on field trips to learn about other communities and other information, with that the giver had the one kid that was on a field trip that didn’t know the way they do things at Lilly’s school so he cut her. There is a big impact on a society with no differences because in a world where everyone’s the same there would be no jealousy or any bullying because we would all be the same. Another advantage of this is there is no competition, therefore nobody gets down on themselves for being not as good as the other kid. I would say it is not worthwhile because you’ve lost a lot of special talents that you were given that would mean nothing therefore wasting it. Those are some of the similarities and advantages between our society and the givers society.
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DeleteThere are many similarities between our society and the society in The Giver. In our society everyone is different. We all have different looks, personalities, and qualities. In The Giver, the people all look different, and they definitely have different personalities. Each person has different qualities too, which is good for them because of the way they get their jobs. Another similarity is, both societies have rules. We have certain rules that we must follow, called laws. In The Giver, the town has a rule that prevents the parents from having over two children. That could also be known as a law. Along with the rule saying that the parents can only have one boy and one girl. There are many other similarities, but those are just a few.
ReplyDeleteThere are several similarities between our society and the society in The Giver. One similarity is their families. The families in The Giver may not be exactly like families in our society, but they do most of the same things. The families sit down at dinner and eat together, like most families, and they share their feeling and events of the day. They also resemble families in our society in the way that they love and care for the children even though in the book, they are not really theirs. All of the people in the society are different. They have different likes and dislikes, and different qualities. This is good for their society so all of the jobs can be filled. Another similarity is they have a variety of children all different ages that attend school. The society in The Giver has rules; I think these are similar to laws in our society. They are like laws because they prevent the people from doing things that could cause trouble. Those are some of the similarities between our society and the society in The Giver.
ReplyDeleteNice job guys. Excellent responses so far. Consider this though - when you are surrounded and required to follow rules and give standard apologies to everything, are you truly experiencing feelings and love? Many of you mentioned that you felt like the families were similar in the ways that we share feelings and interact. Do you think the families in The Giver are able to experience true emotions?
ReplyDeleteOur societies are very different but have many similarities as well. I think that in their families they have love and support. Lily supports her brother when goes up to the podium to receive his job. Jonas supports his sister when she goes up to the podium to receive her "awards". I think that its also similar how we share our feelings with our family just like they do. Like when at the dinner table, Jonas told about how he was apprehensive toward the Ceremony of the Twelves. I don't know about some families but many families in our society may share their dreams with family members. They also have times when they work on their school work. A lot of families in our community and the families in The Giver are similar in many ways. I hope you agree with my response.
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DeleteI agree with Emily when she said that they aren’t really a family, but they act like one! You don’t have to not love each other if they are not your real parents. You can still share your feelings and dreams with them and not have to be a family! Real families might bond a lot, but other families may not. In The Giver, they all talk to each other like if they were a real family! I also agree with Anna when she said that they have laws and rules like we do! Every community must have some sort of rules or laws to control everybody. If they didn’t, there would be fighting and lots of bad things happening! We might not have the same rules that the community in the Giver have, but they do have laws and rules to control everybody! I also disagree with Anna a little bit because everybody in there community looks the same because they all have the same hair style and they all have the same clothes! I do agree with Anna when she said that there personalities were definitely different! Jonas and Lily have different opinions and it seems like Lily is more outgoing than Jonas!
ReplyDeleteAlthough our society and the society in “The Giver” are different, they also share some similarities between each other. For one similarity, we all have the same humanly actions. We all eat, drink, sleep, dream, think, etc. Also, we and they have problems that go through our communities. They worry about their children, their jobs, their family issues, and there are some crimes that go on. So do us. The children and all other humans have certain age groups and limits. For example, the kids twelve and under have age groups that they stay with and make friends with and they cannot do certain things when they are young. That is the way our society is. We all have friends that are our same age and we all have limits, like we can’t drive until we’re sixteen, and they can’t have their bikes until they’re nine. Also, they have education, schools, and assignments (jobs) just like us. Some other similarities between us are birthdays, court, husband and wife, etc. Those are only some of the similarities between us and the society in “The Giver.”
ReplyDeleteI agree with Mike on this question. His similarities with our society and theirs are very accurate. However, I have to disagree when he says that everybody has their own look and appearance. All of the girls under nine have to where headbands. All of the boys and girls have to where a button down jacket. Yes, they do have so differences in appearance, but not totally. But yes, I agree with the fact that everybody has their similarities with eating, sleeping, drinking, learning, etc. I also agree when he says that everybody needs to have their own differences. If you don’t, you cannot be yourself. That is why I have to agree with Mike.
ReplyDeleteLike Jade said, I also agree with Emily when she says even though they aren’t all related like a real family, they act like they are. They do love each other very strongly, like a regular family. When Jade said she disagrees with me about the way people look, well I disagree with her when she says people in a certain community all look the same. Everyone is unique. No one looks the same. Not everyone might wear their hair the same. Even though the young girls might all have to wear their hair the same, but once they reach the certain age, they get their braids cut off. Then the ladies get to wear their hair however they would like it. Then the when the boys get to the certain age, they get their hair cut above their ears. After that, they can wear it whatever way. Some people are smaller then others, some are tanner or paler, and then there are those few that have different color eyes. So some people could look a lot alike, but most of them look different.
ReplyDeleteThe book “The Giver” and our society have many similarities. For example, in our society, many parents show compassion toward their children. Jonas’s mom and dad in “The Giver” show a quality similar to that. Lily is nicknamed and if often called by her father, Lily-billy. Its nothing special but shows compassion. In our society if someone gives you a nickname it might mean that they really care for you and have taken time to come up with something special. Also, when Jonas told his mother about his dream, she really seemed liked she cared. She even said she would write him an apology for being late instead of him saying it aloud to the class. Another thing that is similar to our societies is that we all have friends, play, and have fun. Asher is Jonas’s close friend. They seem to get along and play like normal kids. That is basically the same for us. “The Giver” is a very interesting book that is very different from our society but there are some similarities too.
ReplyDeleteI think that the society described in The Giver is similiar to the society we have now, but more controlled than ours. In my opinion, it's similiar to a comnunist government, with nearly every aspect of the citizens' lives being controlled by the elders, such as what they do in their free time, where they work, and what priveleges they are allowed to have. They are similiar to us in the way that they interact with each other and express their emotions, but none of them are that unique. They are in the sense of their genetics and interests, but otherwise live a completely boring life. Personally, I would object to most of their rules (I'm not one for sharing my feelings or taking pills) but they do this for the betterment of the community. In our society, laws are reasonable enough that people can live how they want, but there's also things like unemployment and disease that weigh our society down. I'm actually beginning to think that many of the rules in their society are to prevent them from learning about reality (or some form of it) and to keep them contained, although this may not be true. Either way, I'm sure their world is similiar to ours; their community most likely developed differently and obtained customs that our society would find strange. I've been expecting something like that to be true, mainly from reading the City of Ember series, which has a similiar plot, but that's a bit off topic. More similarities I have found between our societies are some of the problems that most everyone faces, both physically and psychologically. Also, I think that they don't experience as much emotion as we do. With rules to force people into appreciating others, I don't think that they experience a real realationship. They have no idea who anyone actually is, since there is no family history, and this would most likely cause a feeling of discomfort. Like you said in class, the pills they take might also affect their ability to connect with others. I'm sure most of the people who would read this would have nearly opposite opinions, but I like to look at this in my own way.
ReplyDeleteI believe that our societies can have some similarities, but are very VERY different. As many people mentioned, the families do experience and exchange love. In my belief, I think that these feelings of "love" are artificial, set up by the community.If someone is forced to apologize, then that may not be the true apology of them. Forgiveness was also eliminated in the process of creating this community. In our society, people can choose to apologize or not. And those apologized to can choose to forgive or not. I think that the elimination of choices and personal experiences was unnecessary, and the community could have been just as successful if the citizens were given that. Being denied real feelings of love and passion towards a family or significant other could possibly damage a community more than build it. If each citizen had their own personal experiences and feelings and choices, the community would become stronger by experience, and could be better able to control new experiences and problems that will arise in the community.
ReplyDeleteOur society and the society in the Giver are alike in many ways. The families in the Giver aren’t exactly the same as our families but they do many of the things we do. In both societies there are humans that range from youth to adults. Another way they are alike is that they both have strict rules/laws that if are broken the person can be punished. Like kids in our society, kids in the Giver get really excited for big events. Also when they are adults they find a job and work until they are too old just like the society that we live in. Many kids in there society like to do different things. That enables them to fill up all of the jobs in the community. If everyone was the same and did the same things then everyone would have the same exact job. The kids in the Giver are just like we are. They like to play and do all kinds of things we like to do. Also, the families love and support each other all of the time. Like us, they are always helping each other out. Those are some similarities between our society and the Givers society.
ReplyDeleteIn agreement with Josh, the citizens are forced into relationships such as parenthood, being a spouse, or being a sibling. Because do not get to encounter the thought or situation of a real relationships. Because these relationships are arranged, there usually aren't controversies. The committee planned this out well, though forgetting the psychological portion of relationships that build off of disagreement and diversity. They are not permitted to learn family history, or any other form of history. This will eventually cause the history of the community to repeat itself, creating more problems that were originally supposed to be prevented. If the citizens in the community work for the common good, are regulated on everything they do or say, then is there really a purpose in living in the community if you can't have your own experiences?Being regulated on everything they do, "The Giver"'s society is, more or less, communist as Josh said.
ReplyDeleteI believe that our society today and the society in “The Giver” are very different, but are also very alike. One example of this is how we act. We all do the same things, like walk, ride bikes, and play catch. Another way that the two societies are similar is the way people act as a family. They all love and care for each other, even though they aren’t actually related. Most families in our society today don’t share their feelings with each other a lot, but they do in “The Giver” and that just means that they are very close and trust each other. Families in our society also trust each other, or at least they should. These two societies are also similar because of the things like the technology. Its not like one of the societies has flying bikes or anything. Another thing that they have in common is the way that people do things. For example, they all eat dinner and go to bed around the same time that we do. Also, the citizens in the society of “The Giver” have feelings like us, such as sadness, fear, and even though someone isn’t allowed to be attracted to somebody, they still can be before they take any pills. Overall, you can tell that two societies, like ours and the society in “The Giver”, can have some differences and still be very similar.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nick on this question. He is right when he talks about his similarities. Nick is right about everything he talks about. Like when he talks about the limits in the two societies. Both of the societies have laws/rules that we have to follow and that we can’t do up until a certain age. One thing I do disagree on is that he said that there are crimes that go on in the community and they worry about those crimes. It is very rare in the book for a crime to happen in the community so most of the people don’t worry about crimes happening. Although I disagree on that I agree on the rest of Nick’s response. For example we all eat, drink, sleep, etc. just like those in the giver. That is why I agree with Nick’s response.
ReplyDeleteThere are a variety of similarities between our society and the unique society in The Giver. Our families, emotions, and lives are somewhat similar. The people in The Giver have to eat, sleep, drink, and do other stuff just like us. Jonas has friends just like we do. They hang out together and have fun. They also have families. They share their feelings and opinions just like some of us do with our families. They also eat dinner together and spend time together. Jonas attends school along with his other fellow classmates, just like us. They have emotions but I don’t think they experience them like we do. Since their community follows strict rules, they don’t have an opportunity to have the same emotions we do.
ReplyDeleteSome of the similarities between the community in the Giver and our community are that everyone has jobs, kids, and a place to live. People in the GIver are still people, they just don't live like we do. Also, i think the loss of diversity is not good. Diversity is the backbone of competition. Competition is the driving force of success. Therefore, without diversity people are not as likely to succeed. Also, people need to be unique in their own way, without it, the world would be plain and boring. In "The Community" everything is made for each person. Each person has a set plan. Almost like the people who are running it are playing God. They took away diversity for the obvious reason, less complications and a nicer community. But, the things that are taken away when there is a loss of difference are more important.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rachel Loper. Her answer was very convincing. The nickname that the parents gave Lilly was very compassionate and show that they care. Lilly may not be there own child, but giving her a nickname does show that they care. I also agree with her statement about Jonas sharing his dream with his family. I think that it is really neat how they share their dreams. That may be one thing that families in our society are lacking, understanding each others feelings. Asher and Jonas share a relationship that that is VERY similar to those of our kids. I hope you find my statement agreeing with Rachel's statement pleasurable.
ReplyDeleteSome similarities between our society and the Giver are how both have families that support each other in many different ways. They’re always there for each other just like families in our society are there. We both share our feelings with our families. Some advantages of having no competition are that no one gets angry at someone because of competition. They also all get along and always want the best for others, because it doesn’t make a difference in their lives if they do. The sameness allows them to make sure their community is the best it can be. It also allows everyone to think they are equal. This in turn makes everyone work together. I think for their society, it was something that worked well. But if something like this was done in our society, it was fail. This is because our whole society is based on being better than the next person.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'd have loved to find someone to disagree with (mainly because no one has done that yet) I agree completely with what Madeline had stated. Even though I feel like I'm repeating myself, I don't think people in The Giver are capable of developing bonds like we can in our society. They also can't feel the true extent of most of their emotions, as many of the things are forced. In our society, we have a choice of being expressive or secretive, forgiving or unforgiving, ect. If someone does something wrong, they are forced to apologize, even if they have no feelings concerning it. They don't build characteristics or learn anything from it. Along with that, there's almost no difference between anyone, so there ceases to be a purpose. They all work toward a common goal, even though they each share different interests. The elders decide what rules people must follow during everyday life, so they are not able to make dicisions of their own. This eliminates personal experiences, and makes their lives less meaningful. Not that they aren't meaningful; in my opinion, their meaning is to experience the extent of their emotions, good and bad, and come to peace with it. Not that I'm saying Madeline would think that, yet our views on the similiarities between reality and fiction as portrayed in The Giver are almost the same.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rachel Loper. I also think the same thing about nicknames. I believe that when someone takes the time to make a special name just for you, that they care about you. I also agree with Rachel when she was talking about how much his parents cared for him, like when he shared his dream with them and even when they had that talk with him about the Ceremony of Twelves. I also agree with Nick on this question. I agree with him when he says that we all do the same things like eat, drink, and sleep. I also agree when he said that they have problems in their community, just as we do in ours. I disagree with Madeline, though. I disagree with her when she says that the feelings of love among families are artificial. I disagree with this because after being together so long, their love becomes real, just like the love in our society.
ReplyDeleteI believe Sam is right. For one, it is true that the people in the Giver just live in a different society. I also agree with his comments on diversity and competiveness. Competiveness is something that keeps society from being slow at developing. I also agree with the fact that without diversity, the world would be boring. It’s something that makes everything better. It also allows people to express different feelings about the same subject in any way they want to. An example of this is our class blog. Mrs. Costello could have just made us write papers on this and hand it in, not allowing us to see others papers. Instead, she decided to use this blog. It does the same thing, but it distorts it into something else at the same time. Also, because the community makes almost every major decision for the people within it, they have no real choices. Sure, they can vote for the council and such. But they don’t choose their spouses, or their jobs. This society claims to be perfect, but if a person doesn’t like their job, they can’t do anything about it. That seems to almost be like a communist government, and that doesn’t seem to work out very well ever. True, taking away diversity means that everything would make for fewer complications. But in the long haul, you’re taking away these humans rights. Like Sam said, difference is important.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anna on this question. In The Giver they do have rules which are like laws that we have. I also agree about what she had said about everyone being different. I believe the law idea was a great choice to write about. If they break a rule in The Giver, they might get released. If we break a rule here, we might get fined or put in jail depending on how bad the situation is. The laws in both of our societies really help provide a safe environment. About qualities and personalities, I think most of the people in The Giver have very unique personalities. However I think that some of the people share the same qualities, being kind and forgiving, but then again not all the people are like that. Overall I agree with Anna. I think her response is very good.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Nick said about this question. First of all, I agree with what he said about how the people in both societies act in the same ways by doing the same daily things. Also, I agree that there are problems that happen in both communities, although very rarely in the society of the Giver. I also agree about some of the thoughts or worries both societies have, but I have to disagree on how both societies commit crimes. Even though one person has gotten “released” so far, the fault really isn’t considered as a crime. I would have to agree with the making of friendships in both societies, as well. I disagree with the statement about certain limits. Even though there are some age restrictions in both societies, there are more rules or restrictions in the Giver focused on the whole society, not just a specific age group, whereas in our society, most restrictions are geared towards children and young adults. Also, I agree with the way of life both societies have such as marriage, education, and jobs. Those are some reasons of why I mainly agree with Nick’s statement.
ReplyDeleteThe society in The Giver and the society in our own world are kind of similar. A lot of people said that the people in The Giver and the people in our world are affectionate towards others. I think that is true also. The nickname that Lily was given by her parents (Lilybilly) did show affection. That happens in our world too! A lot of people give others nicknames to show that they cared about them. Another similarity would be how the in the society of The Giver the families in the community would share their feelings. A lot of families in our world do too! I think that it is a good thing to talk about your feelings with your family. It brings you, your parents, and your siblings closer together.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nick on this question. I too think that in our world we do have limits, just like in the book. Not only do we have to wait until we are sixteen to drive as Nick said, there are many other limits. You can’t drink until your twenty-one. You also can’t get a job typically until you are fourteen years of age to be hired. We also have groups of friends our own age as Nick pointed out. We don’t have 4 year olds being friends with 11 year olds. I disagree with Nick on one thing though. He said that having a birthday is similar between both the book and our society. I think that this is wrongly stated in my opinion. I think that our birthdays are different. We celebrate with our own friends and families, and have cake and a small party. We don’t have special ceremonies in front of the entire community like in the book. Other than that I agree with Nick and the other comments that he made.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the society in The Giver is a lot alike our society today. With that, they all have different looks. An example is, Jonas had light eyes, and almost everyone else had dark eyes. They all have a family that they share thoughts and ideas with. A big similarity is that they each have a different jobs, in today’s society you are not going to go out finding that 9 out of 10 people are doctors. Another similarity is that we have consequences for our actions. In the giver, after 3 times you get in trouble you are released from the community. In the giver, a child receives a bicycle when they have the ceremony of the 9’s. Most children in our society have a bicycle by age 9. Jonas likes the girl Fiona, and in our society most people “like” someone. The kids in the giver do most things that children in our society do today, like bike, play catch, and chat. Jonas and his friends hang out like I would with my friends today. The Giver’s society is much like our society today, and as we read the book I’m sure there will be plenty of more similarities.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Abby when she said that people in our society today are affectionate towards others. How Jonas' parents call Lilly, Lilly-Billy. It is also true how she mentioned that when people give people nicknames such as "Meg" or "Megs" it's because they might be close with them. To add on to that, families in our society do share their feelings with eachother alot, just like how in The Giver they had a discussion after dinner on their feelings. Abby had alot of statements I agree with.
ReplyDeleteI think the society in the book The Giver has many similarities to today’s society. For example, in the book, each age symbolizes a new responsibility. In our society, it is basically the same. In our middle school age we are expected to do many things compared to the elementary schools. As we get older, we gain more and more responsibility. In the Giver, adults are considered Twelves and older. They start to give out responsibility at a younger age. In our society it is spread out for many years or slightly increasing as the years go by. When they are adults, they are expected to be married and have children, just like our society expects us to do. They’re utopia is almost exactly like our un-perfect society, with rule breakers, and some who do not belong. As all societies have.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Megan. The children in the Giver’s society are very similar to us. Like Megan previously mentioned, they do similar activities to what we do. Only, they do not exactly have the same freedoms as we would be given at a young age. For example, most children in our society receive bicycles at a young age, like five or six. In their society they are given a bicycle at age nine. Also, they are obligated for jobs at age twelve, when most people are starting middle school. I think that if kid’s from their society came to stay in our society, they would become confused, and think the things we do are against the rules. In conclusion, the children from the Giver are similar, but greatly different from children in our society.
ReplyDeleteThe society in the giver and our society are similar in some ways and different in others. In our society we can get jobs that we really want or really don’t want. This is similar to the giver because in the giver you are assigned your job. You could get the job you wanted or a job that you absolutely hated. unlike in the giver our society has the free done to choose our jobs. We sometimes just have to get a job we don’t like to feed our families. Our society is similar to the giver we families and friends, but in the giver they are assigned a family. Also like the giver in our society people have different personalities. An example would be Asher he is always funny doesn’t really take things serious, and then there is Pierre who is always serious, not much fun, he worries a lot, and is a bit of a tattletale. You will find people in our society with personalities like Asher’s and Pierre’s. Our society and the one in the giver are also very different. In the giver every year there are fifty newborn children. In our society there could be less than fifty or over one hundred newborn children depending on the community. In the giver all children get special privileges at a certain age. In our society children get privileges at different ages. For example a twelve year old could get a cell phone but some might not get a cell phone until they are fifteen or older. As you can see there are many similarities and differences between our society and the society in the giver.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to tell if a loss of diversity was worthwhile in my last post.
ReplyDeleteI think it is not worthwhile. I think this because if everything was based on rule a committee everything would be really boring. With diversity there would be debates and friendly arguments and maybe not so friendly arguments, but that is just part of life. If we suddenly but rules on our way of life no one would be happy. I think the only reason the people in the giver follow those rules is because they were born with them. The committee pretty much controls the peoples. Life would be better for the community in the giver if they had the freedom to choose their own jobs, and be able to just have fun as a child. That is why I think it is not worthwhile.
I agree with mark he has the right idea about it not being worthwhile.I also think mark was wrong about there being no competition. If there was no competition today there would be no sport, there would be only one pizza place. That means no sabo’s no pizza hut no papa johns just one pizza place. If you don’t like that pizza then you are out of luck. There would most likely be no sports teams at all just little games like catch. That’s what today’s society would be like without competition. I agree with mark about no there being no bullying and no jealousy because there are no differences in the world. That would be a good part with no jealousy there would be no wars over things like who has the most oil. No bullying would most likely stop all fighting. This is because I think jealousy leads to bullying and bullying could be like bragging that you have more of something, or making fun of someone because they have less than you. Usually that will lead to a fight. If jealousy and bullying were eliminated there might even be world peace. That’s why I agree and disagree with mark.
ReplyDeleteI really agree with Brooke and what she was saying about the new responsibilities. To me that is a really good point. She is right about how it is kind of the same in our society. Also I would have to agree with Emily and how she felt about “The Giver”. She said things like how the people have different likes and dislikes. That is true because if not then their community would dull and the people would not like their jobs. Also, you can see that with Asher and Jonas. Asher is more calm and laid back. Jonas on the other hand, stays to the rules more and goes with the flow. I really liked Emily’s and Brooke’s and had to agree with a lot of what they said.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anna! I think she had some pretty good ideas on the similarities of our society and the society in the giver. I especially agree with how she said that they are all different. In the book’s society and our society we have a variety of people. All of the people are different and have different qualities. I also agree with what she said about their rules being similar to our laws. In our society if people break the rules, or laws, they are punished. This is the same way in the book. If someone breaks the rules then they are punished, by being released from the community. Those are just a few of the things I agree with Anna about.
ReplyDeleteI agree with bens blog with his society and diversity answers. Mostly I agree when he says that its different because in the giver you are assigned your job, but in the real world you can pick it. Another part that I agree with is in the real world your parents bring you into this world, but in the giver you are assigned parents. an example of this is when jonas a number 19 was given to his parents. Also I agree again with ben because in the giver people have different personalitys. One example from the book is asher is comedic, but jonas is calm and responsible. When ben says no one would be happy and depressed if we all had the same diversity, I disagree because lots of people would like that because some people arent as good as others. What Im trying to say is all the not so good people would fit in and there would be no bulling or anything like that. I also agree on him at that part to because it would be more enjoyable to pick your own job and to also have a fun childhood not going by strict rules. That is my society agreement and diversity agreement with ben.
ReplyDeleteOur society and Jonas's have a lot of things in common. Both have families that care for each other, even if they aren't related. Both society's have friends. We are given privileges at certain times, like volunteer hours or a bike. Our society has a place for the old, just like in The Giver. Even though we have many things alike, they don't have diversity. They don't have hunger, pain, love, or as they call "stirrings", or competition. Without anything different, it's pointless. It would boring, and nothing would hold meaning, like falling in love, or having your parents pick out your name. Having sameness would be good because then there wouldn't be prejudice, or racism. There would be no people that didn't fit in. That doesn't mean it would be worthwile though, because it would not be. We need diversity, its not worthwhile to have sameness.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ben's blog. I agree with how he said that our society is like The Giver's because we either get a job we really wanted or flat out hate. It's true that we have different people, some are funny, some scientific, while others are gentle and caring. I disagree though with his thought on how rules would make us unhappy. Some people like rules, they make life orderly and correct. Not everyone would be unhappy. I also dissagree with his thought on the community controlling them. They are not forcing them into that way of life, they are given a choice to be released, or go into another community. No one is forcing them to live by their rules for forever. I mostly agree with Ben's blog, but there are only a few things I disagree with.
ReplyDeleteThe word “stirrings” is a euphemism for sexual feelings for the opposite sex. In other words it means puberty. In taking the pills that are given to them, they do not go through puberty. Personally, I do not believe that if they take these pills that they cannot have true love. If they do not have feelings of love that is not in a friendship way towards each other they cannot have true love. True love involves feelings other than friendship. These stirrings should be allowed for true love to be taken place. I also do not think that if they are randomly matched with people that they can have a true love connection. They should be able to choose their husbands/wives. Also they should not have to take the pills.
ReplyDeleteThe word “stirrings” is a euphemism for sexual feelings for the opposite sex. In other words it means puberty. In taking the pills that are given to them, they do not go through puberty. Personally, I do not believe that if they take these pills that they cannot have true love. If they do not have feelings of love that is not in a friendship way towards each other they cannot have true love. True love involves feelings other than friendship. These stirrings should be allowed for true love to be taken place. I also do not think that if they are randomly matched with people that they can have a true love connection. They should be able to choose their husbands/wives. Also they should not have to take the pills.
ReplyDeleteWell I believe that one of the dangerous is getting a broken heart. Since we are coming close in the novel to putting their "plan" into action, Jonas must leave The Giver. I think that this separation will leave both Jonas and The Giver will be left with a broken heart. (As The Giver was left once before) I also feel that if Jonas has sexual feelings toward Fiona will hurt him as well. If Jonas ends up maybe asking her out on a date, if that is allowed, I think that he will experience rejection. She will not feel the same way because she takes those pills and she has never known the memory of love. I would feel VERY bad if that ever happened to Jonas. I hope you feel the same way i do.
ReplyDeleteI have summer reading and it is asking for a family background about the giver's antagonist, the elders. I can't find anything in the book. please help me
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